NavalTargeting - Revision history

Rain-Islet: [bot] Batch update {{Bugs}} templates.

2025-07-02T15:39:18Z

[bot] Batch update {{Bugs}} templates.

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:39, 2 July 2025
Line 90:		Line 90:
	==Bug? I think this should be called a 'feature' :P==		==Bug? I think this should be called a 'feature' :P==
	For a Vehicle that uses a SpawnLauncher as [[Secondary]] (such as [DEST]), if it simultaneously sets NavalTargeting=5 (or 7, it's the same, and the actual testing and inspection are indeed the same.) and [[LandTargeting]]=2, then as long as the carrier based aircraft is launched once, even if it switches to using [[Primary]] for fire, [https://www.bilibili.com/opus/953193697038565393 the SpawnLauncher will continue to load and issue attack commands to the carrier based aircraft.]		For a Vehicle that uses a SpawnLauncher as [[Secondary]] (such as [DEST]), if it simultaneously sets NavalTargeting=5 (or 7, it's the same, and the actual testing and inspection are indeed the same.) and [[LandTargeting]]=2, then as long as the carrier based aircraft is launched once, even if it switches to using [[Primary]] for fire, [https://www.bilibili.com/opus/953193697038565393 the SpawnLauncher will continue to load and issue attack commands to the carrier based aircraft.]
	{{Bugs}}		=={{Bugs}}==
	*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.		*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
	*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]		*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]

MarkJFox: 13 revisions imported

2025-03-31T20:00:09Z

13 revisions imported

← Older revision	Revision as of 22:00, 31 March 2025
(No difference)

en>Testid123 at 00:40, 13 October 2024

2024-10-13T00:40:54Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:40, 13 October 2024
Line 93:		Line 93:
	*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.		*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
	*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]		*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]
	*When '''Giant Squid''' uses '''NavalTargeting=4''', it will attack '''Dolphin'''+[[InfantryTypes]] with [[Primary]]+[[ElitePrimary]](Even the {{f\|Unnatural\|yes\|link}} tag couldn't prevent '''Giant Squid''''s attack in capture form)<br>and attack ships. Amphibious vehicles (Hover) + boats + submarines + structures in the water with [[Secondary]], [[EliteSecondary]].		*When '''Giant Squid''' uses '''NavalTargeting=4''', it will attack '''Dolphin'''+[[InfantryTypes]] with [[Primary]]+[[ElitePrimary]](Even the {{f\|Unnatural\|yes\|link}} tag couldn't prevent '''Giant Squid''''s attack in capture form)<br>and attack ships. Amphibious vehicles (Hover) + boats + submarines + structures in the water with [[Secondary]], [[EliteSecondary]] As for '''Giant Squid''' they cannot attack each other.

	==See also==		==See also==

en>Testid123 at 00:36, 13 October 2024

2024-10-13T00:36:54Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:36, 13 October 2024
Line 93:		Line 93:
	*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.		*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
	*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]		*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]
	*When '''Giant Squid''' uses '''NavalTargeting=4''', it will attack '''Dolphin'''+[[InfantryTypes]] with [[Primary]]+[[ElitePrimary]](Even the {{f\|Unnatural\|yes\|link}} tag couldn't prevent '''Giant Squid''''s attack in capture form)<br>and attack ships. Amphibious vehicles (Hover) + boats + submarines + structures in the water with [[Secondary]], [[EliteSecondary]] ~~As for '''Giant Squid''', they cannot attack each other~~.		*When '''Giant Squid''' uses '''NavalTargeting=4''', it will attack '''Dolphin'''+[[InfantryTypes]] with [[Primary]]+[[ElitePrimary]](Even the {{f\|Unnatural\|yes\|link}} tag couldn't prevent '''Giant Squid''''s attack in capture form)<br>and attack ships. Amphibious vehicles (Hover) + boats + submarines + structures in the water with [[Secondary]], [[EliteSecondary]].

	==See also==		==See also==

en>Testid123 at 00:05, 13 October 2024

2024-10-13T00:05:28Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:05, 13 October 2024
Line 93:		Line 93:
	*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.		*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
	*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]		*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]
			*When '''Giant Squid''' uses '''NavalTargeting=4''', it will attack '''Dolphin'''+[[InfantryTypes]] with [[Primary]]+[[ElitePrimary]](Even the {{f\|Unnatural\|yes\|link}} tag couldn't prevent '''Giant Squid''''s attack in capture form)<br>and attack ships. Amphibious vehicles (Hover) + boats + submarines + structures in the water with [[Secondary]], [[EliteSecondary]] As for '''Giant Squid''', they cannot attack each other.

	==See also==		==See also==

en>Testid123 at 12:41, 11 October 2024

2024-10-11T12:41:55Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:41, 11 October 2024
Line 92:		Line 92:
	{{Bugs}}		{{Bugs}}
	*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.		*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
	*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).		*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).<br>[[File:NavalTargeting and InfantryTypes+VehicleTypes.gif]]

	==See also==		==See also==

en>Testid123 at 12:35, 11 October 2024

2024-10-11T12:35:16Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:35, 11 October 2024
Line 92:		Line 92:
	{{Bugs}}		{{Bugs}}
	*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.		*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
			*Even if you specify '''NavalTargeting=x''' ('''x''' must not use '''6''' because '''6''' does not allow attacks into water) but attacks[[InfantryTypes]] and[[VehicleTypes ]] will give different results.<br>Even if you create [[InfantryTypes]] and [[VehicleTypes]] to be the same (all information is the same).

	==See also==		==See also==
			[[LandTargeting]]<br>
	[[LandTargeting]]		[[AA]]<br>
			[[AG]]<br>
	[[AA]]		[[Overcoming_Paratrooper_Targeting_Issues]]<br>
			[[SpeedType]]<br>
	[[AG]]		[[Organic]]<br>
			[[Unnatural]]<br>
	[[Overcoming_Paratrooper_Targeting_Issues]]		[[Underwater]]<br>
			[[Primary]]<br>
			[[Secondary]]<br>
	[[SpeedType]]		[[Spawner]]<br>
			[[Spawns]]<br>
	[[Organic]]

	[[Unnatural]]

	[[Underwater]]


	[[Primary]]

	[[Secondary]]

	[[Spawner]]

	[[Spawns]]

en>DeathFish: [Conclusion] What is the difference between 5 and 7

2024-07-18T12:07:23Z

[Conclusion] What is the difference between 5 and 7

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:07, 18 July 2024
Line 71:		Line 71:
	² <small>'''Also note''' that [[DeeZire]] mentioned a <tt>NavalTargeting=7</tt> unit could get confused if ordered to attack amphibious units.</small><br>(However, we never knew exactly what he was going to say)<br><br>		² <small>'''Also note''' that [[DeeZire]] mentioned a <tt>NavalTargeting=7</tt> unit could get confused if ordered to attack amphibious units.</small><br>(However, we never knew exactly what he was going to say)<br><br>
	³Due to the logic only operating when the target is on water and beach, a SpeedType non Hover vehicle will still be attacked with the main weapon on normal land until it moves to the surface and beach before switching to the secondary weapon based on the effect of NavalTargeting=4.		³Due to the logic only operating when the target is on water and beach, a SpeedType non Hover vehicle will still be attacked with the main weapon on normal land until it moves to the surface and beach before switching to the secondary weapon based on the effect of NavalTargeting=4.

			==What is the difference between '''5''' and '''7'''==
			By analyzing the operation mode of the program, it can be seen that this is actually a multi branch selection structure, but the special value is 012346. Other values are the same, such as -1, 5, 7, 8, etc. Correspondingly, there is '''no difference between NavalTargeting=5 and 7 in fact'''. The comment on line 3684 of YR1.001-rulesmd.ini was completely written by Westwood haphazardly, and it also misled many authors of tutorials and editing manuals, which was a mistake that lasted for 24 years in various modification manuals and tutorials. Now we have corrected it correctly.

	==Primary/Secondary Land/Naval issues==		==Primary/Secondary Land/Naval issues==

en>DeathFish: Every NavalTargeting Real Effect and one feature

2024-07-12T09:22:59Z

Every NavalTargeting Real Effect and one feature

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:22, 12 July 2024
Line 10:		Line 10:

	This flag, along with <tt>LandTargeting</tt>, was likely introduced because technically, ships are ground-level units as well, and a simple AG=yes <strike>would have</strike> does allow Submarines, for example, to fire torpedoes through the water, over the ground, into a tank. This, of course, is not desired. Therefore, the additional target area distinction between "Land" and "Naval" was created. The originally intended <tt>AN</tt> and <tt>AS</tt> were probably dismissed because they were not "complex" enough, allowing only a simple "Can fire on submarines? Yes." rather than something like "Can fire on submarines? Yes, but only with it's Secondary.".		This flag, along with <tt>LandTargeting</tt>, was likely introduced because technically, ships are ground-level units as well, and a simple AG=yes <strike>would have</strike> does allow Submarines, for example, to fire torpedoes through the water, over the ground, into a tank. This, of course, is not desired. Therefore, the additional target area distinction between "Land" and "Naval" was created. The originally intended <tt>AN</tt> and <tt>AS</tt> were probably dismissed because they were not "complex" enough, allowing only a simple "Can fire on submarines? Yes." rather than something like "Can fire on submarines? Yes, but only with it's Secondary.".
			<br><br><br>
			<font style="color:red">The logic only operating when the target is on cell which '''LandType=Water''' or '''Beach'''.<br>
			And actually executed after [[LandTargeting]].</font>(although not conflicting)
			<br><br><br>
	{\| align="center" cellpadding="4" class="table_descrowdesccol"		{\| align="center" cellpadding="4" class="table_descrowdesccol"
	!Value		!Value
	!Basic game interpretation		!Basic game interpretation
	!Explanation from rules		!Explanation from rules
			!The Real Effect
	\|-		\|-
	!0		!0
	\|UNDERWATER_NEVER		\|UNDERWATER_NEVER
	\|Can't shoot at all at underwater		\|Can't shoot at all at underwater
			\|Cannot attack UNDERWATER which have not been released from cloaking.<br>Normally for other.
	\|-		\|-
	!1		!1
	\|UNDERWATER_SECONDARY		\|UNDERWATER_SECONDARY
	\|Use Second weapon against underwater		\|Use Second weapon against underwater
			\|← is real, and normally for other.
	\|-		\|-
	!2		!2
	\|UNDERWATER_ONLY		\|UNDERWATER_ONLY
	\|Can only shoot underwater		\|Can only shoot underwater
			\|Only Use [[Primary]]<br>NoWeapon for other.
	\|-		\|-
	!3		!3
	\|ORGANIC_SECONDARY		\|ORGANIC_SECONDARY
	\|Use second Weapon on organic		\|Use second Weapon on organic
			\|← and UNNATURAL([SQD] hit [BSUB] in [[YR]]).<br>Use [[Primary]] for other
	\|-		\|-
	!4		!4
	\|SEAL_SPECIAL		\|SEAL_SPECIAL
	\|Primary on Amphibious and organic, Second on Naval and underwater-not-organic		\|Primary on Amphibious and organic, Second on Naval and underwater-not-organic
			\|Use [[Primary]] for ORGANIC and HOVER<br>Use [[Secondary]] for other.³
	\|-		\|-
	!5		!5
	\|NAVAL_ALL		\|NAVAL_ALL
	\|Go ahead and shoot everything with Primary¹		\|Go ahead and shoot everything with Primary¹
			\|← is real
	\|-		\|-
	!6		!6
	\|NAVAL_NONE		\|NAVAL_NONE
	\|Don't even shoot into the water		\|Don't even shoot into the water
			\|← is real
	\|-		\|-
	!7{{yro}}		!7{{yro}}
	\|NAVAL_PRIMARY		\|NAVAL_PRIMARY
	\|Able to shoot ground target with secondary weapon, but Naval is the primary target²		\|Able to shoot ground target with secondary weapon, but Naval is the primary target²
			\|<font style="color:red">'''← It's completely nonsense!''' </font><br>In fact, after a huge number of tests, it is really no different from 5.<br>We even extracted the working mode from gamemd.idb.<br>Whether not actively attacking targets on land<br>or using [[Secondary]] on targets on land,<br>they are controlled by '''[[LandTargeting]]=2'''<br>instead of '''[[NavalTargeting]]=7'''<b><font style="color:red"> ! ! !</font></b>
	\|}		\|}


	'''UNDERWATER_*''' refers to units with <tt>[[~~Underwater~~]]=yes</tt> set.<br>		'''ORGANIC''' refers to units with <tt>[[Organic]]=yes</tt> set.<br>
	'''ORGANIC_*''' refers to units with <tt>[[~~Organic~~]]=yes</tt> set.<br>		'''HOVER''' refers to units with <tt>[[SpeedType]]=Hover</tt> set.<br>
	'''NAVAL_*''' refers to units with <tt>[[~~Naval~~]]=yes</tt> set.		'''UNNATURAL''' refers to units with <tt>[[Unnatural]]=yes</tt> set.<br>
			'''UNDERWATER''' refers to units with <tt>[[Underwater]]=yes</tt> set.<br>


	¹ <small>'''Note:''' According to [[DeeZire's Red Alert 2 and Yuris Revenge INI Editing Guide\|The Guide]], this actually only means that everything with <tt>Naval=yes</tt> set will be attacked with the primary weapon. That leaves the secondary undocumented. It ''could'' mean a boomer, was it set <tt>NavalTargeting=5</tt>, would shoot torpedos on ships, but fire Cruise Missiles to kill Robot Tanks, Amphibious Transporters and Tanyas in the water. This, however, is pure speculation by this revision's author.</small><br>		¹ <small>'''Note:''' According to [[DeeZire's Red Alert 2 and Yuris Revenge INI Editing Guide\|The Guide]], this actually only means that everything with <tt>Naval=yes</tt> set will be attacked with the primary weapon. That leaves the secondary undocumented. It ''could'' mean a boomer, was it set <tt>NavalTargeting=5</tt>, would shoot torpedos on ships, but fire Cruise Missiles to kill Robot Tanks, Amphibious Transporters and Tanyas in the water. This, however, is pure speculation by this revision's author.</small><br>(Confirmed that this issue does not exist)<br>
	² <small>'''Also note''' that [[DeeZire]] mentioned a <tt>NavalTargeting=7</tt> unit could get confused if ordered to attack amphibious units.</small>		² <small>'''Also note''' that [[DeeZire]] mentioned a <tt>NavalTargeting=7</tt> unit could get confused if ordered to attack amphibious units.</small><br>(However, we never knew exactly what he was going to say)<br><br>
			³Due to the logic only operating when the target is on water and beach, a SpeedType non Hover vehicle will still be attacked with the main weapon on normal land until it moves to the surface and beach before switching to the secondary weapon based on the effect of NavalTargeting=4.

	==Primary/Secondary Land/Naval issues==		==Primary/Secondary Land/Naval issues==
Line 72:		Line 85:
	LandTargeting=2		LandTargeting=2
	This section is just ment to show that Naval- & LandTargeting aren't mutually exclusive, and can confuse the hell out of you as well as the game. Apart from the usual checks, you should watch them double closely if you're doing any extended Primary/Secondary magic.		This section is just ment to show that Naval- & LandTargeting aren't mutually exclusive, and can confuse the hell out of you as well as the game. Apart from the usual checks, you should watch them double closely if you're doing any extended Primary/Secondary magic.
			==Bug? I think this should be called a 'feature' :P==
			For a Vehicle that uses a SpawnLauncher as [[Secondary]] (such as [DEST]), if it simultaneously sets NavalTargeting=5 (or 7, it's the same, and the actual testing and inspection are indeed the same.) and [[LandTargeting]]=2, then as long as the carrier based aircraft is launched once, even if it switches to using [[Primary]] for fire, [https://www.bilibili.com/opus/953193697038565393 the SpawnLauncher will continue to load and issue attack commands to the carrier based aircraft.]
			{{Bugs}}
			*This feature only used for carrier based aircraft as [[Spawns]], not applicable to missiles.
			==See also==

	~~==See also==~~		[[LandTargeting]]
	*[[LandTargeting]]
	*[[AA]]/[[AG]]~~'s notes on paratroopers.~~		[[AA]]

			[[AG]]

			[[Overcoming_Paratrooper_Targeting_Issues]]


			[[SpeedType]]

			[[Organic]]

			[[Unnatural]]

			[[Underwater]]


			[[Primary]]

			[[Secondary]]

			[[Spawner]]

			[[Spawns]]

en>Vinifera7: Testing new values limitations =D

2008-04-21T19:03:56Z

Testing new values limitations =D

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:03, 21 April 2008
Line 1:		Line 1:
	{{Flag		{{Flag
	\|~~name~~=~~NavalTargeting~~		\|values={{Values\|unsigned integers\|0 to 7}}
	\|~~files=rules(md).ini~~
	\|~~values=~~0~~, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,~~ 7
	\|default=0		\|default=0
	\|types={{CatAllTypes}}		\|types={{CatAllTypes}}